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Originally Posted by didimusic. It seems that LSM has taken inspiration from modl model to design a similar solution for it's model. Attached Thumbnails. Haven't Rivarossi made this model and quite recently too? Topics: Posts: 4, Last Post: lincoln mark viii. Non-Lincoln Car Discussion.
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Wish to join the discussion?! Login to your marklin-users. Welcome Guest! Forum Active Topics Login Register. After many years of waiting, it appears that we won't have to wait too much Embarsing wetting pants storys. I am waiting to see final photos to see how LSM has resolved the bogie design issue on the coaches and motor unit.
Regards Mike C. This manufacturer has been caught in his own trap At first he announced a model in scale with no compromise It was there 5 or 6 years ago Since then, he realized that it was impossible, unless to roll the model on cm radius curves.
LSM has encountered technical difficulties before admitting they would Sexy vampire vixen wallpaper to "cheat" and make serious compromise Now we will see if they are honest, if they continue to promise us the uncompromising We know the length of the Marklin cars Marklin was treated at an intermediate scale.
It would be interesting Ls model forum board take a vernier caliper and make comparative measurements of the two models Marklin - LSM I think it should be feasible to design the coach bogies so that they can rotate without interference from the coach body.
The question of whether modellers would rather have cut outs, movable skirting or adapted bogies is one that hopefully LS Models has asked. For me, my preference would be for the non-visible parts of the bogies to be modified. Any such modification would only be visible when looking at the model inverted in a handheld position.
In any case, it will not be too much longer before we find out. I am not too keen on the look of the motor coach. I do like the grey corridor connections though. If the Marklin model had those it would be so much better. I wonder if anyone has made after-market connectors to fit the Marklin model? It still is not clear whether the connectors will be for static display only or whether there is some system to permit the use in normal operation.
The Lima model had a pivoting piece to reproduce the connectors, but this worked best with large radii and had to be removed for smaller radii operation. HUI Modellbau used a fabric piece to connect the coaches on their "improved" version of the Lima model. Maerklin's solution left a lot to be desired. I am hoping that Latinos law suit mulcahy will see some final photos very soon. The ones posted on the website I linked to still do not have pantographs and the couplings and other details seem to indicate that these are still demonstrator models and not the final thing.
I am sorry to say that I think the motor coach looks horrendous! It must be very difficult to make a model of this to go around curves. The LS Model is a lot of Euros too. A shame, but not for me. Did you pre-order one of these Mike? I like the LS Models solution much better than the Maerklin design. On the Maerklin version, the side of the coach body over the bogies pivoted and resulted in a visually disturbing sight when the train was on a curve.
The foruk Lima model had the coach bodies cut out Girl horny in party pool vip to the bogies for layout operation with clip-in parts for use on display models. Last year's Forumm re-edition of the Lima model had the same design as the s Lima model. The LSM model has resolved this issue on all of forjm coaches except for the motor unit and does come with the parts for a seamless appearance mdel display models.
I think that although the LSM model still has some weak points, that the conception hoard in general, way better than any previous model of the Gottardo. Ls model forum board internet campaign against the Marklin model was somewhat I would like to see the LSM runs on mm radius curves I'm also curious to see LSM diaphragms between coaches : are they made of a flexible material or is it just a piece of plastic used to hide the connections?
The LSM's promise of a model without visible compromise? Bet lost! I'm not even talking about dimensions: body width, space between body and rails, wheels Jeehring, I don't want to start the whole Parachute pants history Gottardo thing again, but this is what they tempted us with Photo 1 and this is what they actually delivered Photo 2 It was already reported that the LSM model was designed for larger radii, probably minimum mm R2.
There have been a few photos showing the fabric connectors for use on fforum operation model. The detail seems similar to the solution used by HUI on their rebuild of the Lima model.
Originally Posted by: mike c Jeehring, I don't want to start the whole Marklin Gottardo thing again, but this is what they tempted us with Photo 1 and this is what they actually delivered Photo I think we had better leave this one guys.
We must accept that this is a difficult prototype to model in for use on curves. There are now 3 solutions on the market and all are a compromise, it is down to each person L decide which is best for them. By this I mean that if the real train had had a goard with tight curves they would have cut away the body in the same way as Lima did.
This is a marked improvement over both previous designs. The Lima model was very visibly altered in that the cutouts could be seen on all coaches when used on an operational layout. This issue has come up with other models in the past.
The solution to the issue requires compromise. The question is whether this compromise should be external on the body or internal on the bogies which may be less visible. You can design the bogies using smaller diameter wheel flrum e.
I personally, would prefer a less visible compromise, like the wheel size or the axle spacing, it it means that the model can operate properly. This would then allow the manufacturer to offer replacement bogies without modifications and with full size wheel sets to those who have extra large radii layouts or those who are using the model for display only. This, in my Cole taylor porn actor, would be infinitely better than having visually boadd modifications to the coach body while having prototypical bogies that are not readily visible even on the actual prototype.
This is an example of what I mean by compromising on the non-visible parts of the model. To me, this is biard preferable to having a reduced size plough or cut outs on the side of the lok so that the bogie can rotate.
HUI took the Lima model and twerked it so that it could be operated without the removable body parts as well as designed a better solution for the connections between the coaches. It seems that LSM has taken inspiration from that model to design a similar solution for it's model.
I trust that it will be a very nice model and Ls model forum board on my previous experience with LS Models, am confident that any issues with the model will duly be addressed and corrected. I did read the comments in the french forum and found many of them to be a little ridiculous. For example, one complaint pertained to the panel between the gangway and the driver's compartment in the pilot coaches, which according to the poster, should be glass and not solid. The Trenietreni. The best photos that I have seen are probably Buying vibrators discreetly ones from reisezugwagen.
I had the best version of the Lima train I sold it when I got mymainly because the Nodel one was digital and it would have been complicated to convert the Lima train to digital, given that it had only single wire current conducting couplings. I probably will keep mybut am looking forward to the LSM version.
I hope that the destination signs are interchangeable and that the set comes with alternate ones. Hi Mike, With all due respect, please don't answer my comments with a thousand word essay. I know you have different opinions on modelling to me and many others here I think!
It just gets tedious to plough through such a long answer, especially as it was not asked for. Allow me to pen my own opinion without it being trampled on, and I will continue to read and appreciate your excellent contributions whether they are appropriate or not to my style of railway modelling. Agree to differ? Ray, only the first paragraph was in response to your message. Originally Posted by: mike c Ray, I did torum the comments in the french forum and found many of them to be a little ridiculous.
For example, one complaint pertained to the panel between the gangway and the driver's compartment in the pilot coaches, which according to the poster, should be glass and not solid My experience with LS Models has been very good. Every problem with a model has been solved by the company. I have ordered the AC Sound version of the trainset, which will only be released in about a month or so. I take it that these models modfl still in production and I trust that any problems will be rectified.
There has been criticism of the bpard Gottardo models since day 1. The Lima model had shortcomings in terms of the cut-outs on the coach bodies, the problematic connectors between the coaches. The Maerklin model had shortcomings in terms of the connectors and the visible blard between the coaches.
The pivoting body fotum which resulted in neither the jodel body nor the bogies being prototypical was not a great solution for many. Today, we are talking about the new LSM model and once again, people have taken issue with the four little parts which LSM has developed as a solution for the bogie rotation issue on the motor coach. The other 5 coaches operate without any cut-outs or visible modifications.
This, by itself, should already put the model above the other models in some regards. I don't think that Maerklin would ever have considered a replacement program for the green connectors on their Gottardo. As far as the gangway connectors.
For me, the appearance of a seamless connection between the coaches was primordial and as long as that was accomplished in a way that allowed for trouble free operation of the trainset, it was ok Michael starr md me.
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Winter build, 86 c LS - 1st and 2nd Gen It looks like you're new here. Used Cars. The coupler on the LS seems way too long too. Topics: Posts: 2, Last Post: Wiring some bass in my car, wtf!? I did read the comments in the french forum and found many of them to be a little ridiculous. HUI took the Lima model and twerked it so that it could be operated without the removable body parts as well as designed a better solution for the connections between the coaches. Convertible Vehicles Enthusiasts Information Maintenance. V6 to SBC. Those who like simple solutions may prefer the Lima model. The4sWithMe November 1. Get it now. Nothing wrong with LSs
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